Women need to understand that a man will take the best 5 years of your life and not feel any guilt at all when the promised proposal / kids don’t happen. Women are cruel to men in different ways, for sure, but men know this. Women don’t seem to know the above tho. Tragic.

Sep 16, 2022 · 4:18 AM UTC

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If a man doesn’t propose within a year or two that relationship isn’t headed anywhere.
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If only there was a institution that was enforced to avoid this conflict.
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In the absence of strong societal pressure, of which there's virtually none in US cities, men have almost no incentive to get married. Telling women to DO something to change this—lose weight! Be more feminine! Give him freedom! Give him an ultimatum!—is silly.
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good ol OG cerno deep
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He’s completely right They will even tell you it will come “in just a couple years” and when a couple years passes they convince you it will be a couple more years, and suddenly 5-6yrs have passed & everyone thinks you’re the asshole when you finally leave him (How do I know?)
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My advice to women is to seek engagement within the first year and official marriage not too long after that. A man knows pretty early if she’s the one. And don’t co-habitate until married. Men drag out the engagement then walk away. Many cases.
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While true, you need to understand that the vast majority of young women today aren't remotely interested in settling down until they're almost 30.
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True. Read a book called Algorithms to Live By that talks about Optimal Stopping Point - also known as The Secretary Problem. Basically don’t waste time on relationships going nowhere. Move on until you have a 37% sample then commit to next best. rs.io/the-secretary-problem-…
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If they don’t propose by a year, move on. A man should know by then. I’ve seen so many women that have been hurt this way.
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I know it’s been a few years since you were dating but this is completely the opposite of today’s reality.
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My husband’s grandmother once said: get the ring before you get the thing.
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Yikes. Thats a broad brush your painting with there. I’m not sure what “women” and “men” your speaking of or hanging out with, but clearly you need to meet more people.
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that is why i gave my now husband a year to propose, if he didn’t want to get married by then I had to move on.
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Is this even a thing anymore? Seems like girls just fuck around on tinder until they're 34 and then expect Mr. Perfect to fall out of the sky, give them a $300k wedding, pay all their student loans and afford them a life of luxury while they do nothing in return 🤷
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This just happened to my friend. she wasted 5 years on a total loser. Not that they were her best years since we’re already old but now she’s even older and that’s about it. time flies. We don’t have forever.
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It’s so true. I got 4 years in and age 32 before I finally faced the truth and left. I met my now fiancé 4 months later. Any women reading this in the 28-33 age group don’t wait more than 18 months!
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I found this out the hard way in my 20s, but I disagree that those were the “best” years of my life (far from it, in fact). the BEST years of my life have been since I met my husband, who was intentional from the very beginning about what he wanted
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Tell me that you’re a beta, without telling me you’re a beta
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My friend is currently in this situation. She dating her bf for the past 7-8 yrs and she's upset that he took her youth, and won't propose. I told her from the beginning to leave him but she wouldn't listen to me. Now she feels she has to settle for him
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1. Women are more likely to cheat: nypost.com/2022/08/23/women-… 2. Women initiate 70% of divorces: psychologytoday.com/us/blog/… 3. Women get custody 90% of the time: cor-law.com/blog/women-get-c… Men don't seem to know the above tho. Tragic.
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A good friend won’t marry because he doesn’t want to lose half of his wealth in divorce. He’s worked hard. Girlfriend wanted unpaid childcare for her unruly children and a bigger home. He wasn’t really considered as part of the marriage. Glad he said no. Same as my ex marriage.
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Spent 20 to 25 with a guy. Promises up one side and down the other. I finally left him and met my husband a few months later. He's still childless and unmarried. Found a woman willing to play house with him long term
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Solution: be wife material, be feminine, also stop expecting him to pay full price for something if you gave it to others for free.
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Date a guy for 2 months and if he proposes, go ahead sign papers straight away. This way you don’t waste your precious time. If he doesn’t propose after 2 months, move on. The right guy would want to lock you ASAP.
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If they don't know this, then their moms didn't do their job raising daughters.
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This is why you don’t give husband benefits to a boyfriend :)
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Thank God my husband proposed to me after 1 year. And we got married like 5 months after than. I was 22 and he was 25. I am lucky he’s madly in love with me and I’m 30 now he’s 33. He’s the absolute love of my love and I’m beyond grateful
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I don’t know but I guess my mom taught me well. If your relationship is not progressing and intensifying in any way it’s time to have the final talk.
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We know. We just tell ourselves: this time will be different. No idea why though.
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“Why buy the cow when the milk is free?”
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Had to have this talk with my husband after family tragedy changed my views about starting a family. His plans were all about waiting until HE was over 40...putting me in my declining fertility years; he didn't even think about that. We did not stay together.
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A male friend recently stole 1 year from the girl he was dating (28). He told me he would never have kids. He told her she had changed his mind. He had his way with her for a year and then lost interest but dragged it out by being indirect and offish with her.
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Women used to understand this(on the whole)-b/c we used to teach it to girls when they reached puberty & enforced codes of behavior that showed teen girls we meant what we said Then we decided to just abandon young people and not teach them anything about success in relationships
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Since we’re talking about men can I ask all you brothers for advice on saving a naive unsuspecting young man I know from the clutches of an evil manipulative controlling golddigger? He’s unaware what is happening, won’t talk/listen to the parents she has alienated him from. 🆘
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Isn’t the woman taking the best 5 years of the man’s life too? What, exactly, is the man getting that the woman isn’t?
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