Something that is never factored into the published (ridiculously high) cost of nuclear energy, a near century long clean up. We pay for this. Current bill, £120 billion and climbing. Sizewell C will be just more of the same. Madly expensive power and a toxic legacy for thousands of years. bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c986…

Nov 6, 2025 · 1:44 PM UTC

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Not all nuclear is bad there sun is nuclear There are also thorium molten salt
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On your 'madly expensive' claim, it's worth noting that the late Prof Sir David MacKay provided some analysis. That analysis was done before CfDs exceeding £200/MWh were handed out to intermittent renewables.
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Decommissioning factored into all nuclear generation. And it is a remarkably small cost, in comparison to build and running costs. RE
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Also, remember that our nukes generate at ~72% Load/Capacity Factor. 7x greater than existing solar, 2x that of onshore wind & ~50% greater than offshore wind.
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Both are required, why can noone be sensible on this subject without showing thier bias.
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It is factored in.
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Somebody community note this nonsense.
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The roll out of renewables is growing but our emissions are not reducing, maybe you need a rethink and a new strategy. Stop demonising zero emissions nuclear energy and listen to other opinions. “In the context of a worsening climate emergency and energy crisis, opposition to nuclear is no longer morally or politically justifiable.” We Planet podcasts.apple.com/au/podcas…
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Yes, all has to be added to each cheap MWh they try to sell us after they invested in the 1980s uranium technology planned in 1989. The UK is retiring 9 reactors in the next ten years, as clean-up costs are rapidly increasing; the sooner the better. Germany 7, which stopped generating years ago, but must be defueled/demolished and a 20-50 year clean up at the earliest. When China operated in April, the world's first thorium nuclear reactor, they plan to use it for the next 60,000 years along with renewables. Being: Liquid Plentiful in many countries Not explosive Or as toxic Can be cleaned and refuelled without switching it off Possibly a far easier final clean-up So China's planned 23 new uranium and whatever the UK have planned. May need to be re-examined. In any event, nuclear provides very little GW. Hinkley 3.3 GW against the UK's 27 GW offshore wind. Not accounting for the onshore wind or photovoltaics. China built 337 GW (GW a billion watts) of renewables last year.
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How many contracts have Labour given you?
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“We”, you are the oligarch who receives subsidies from us, profiting off poor families just trying to hear their homes. Plenty of profit importing Chinese, poverty waged manufacturing, coal powered produced, solar panels right. No worse than the poisoning to the ground the short life panels create.
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Its dispatchable Dale! Your wind & solar is not! How can you run a modern economy by the weather & time of the day? A lot of wind power is curtailed!
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The Chinese could complete the process in 10 years. We take far too long in spending for precautions & debates on highly unlikely scenarios for something to go wrong.
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And the bill for removing 1000's of WTG from the North Sea at their EOL is ?
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Unlike solar panels and windmills which of course don't need to be buried in landfill after a few years of use do they.........🙃
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Or you could argue that with a nuclear waste half-life of thousands of years we can't 'un-have' it even if we abandon nuclear (and militaries will still have it regardless). So the sensible way is to keep using it for reliable 24/7/365 power.
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Have you decommissioned and dismantled a windfarm, yet? How do you propose to remove the millions of tonnes of alkaline concrete bases that are currently killing the carbon sequestrating peat bog into which they have been inserted?
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Of course, if the government "plans" something to take a year, and a dollar, it takes 3 years and 20 dollars …
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Net present value accounting wasn't applied to waste storage or cleanup and applied to each kWh. £10 of cost today on 100 years, well depends on inflation. Could be over £1000. Nuclear fission was a flawed business politically promoted for weapons production.
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Yeah. But Deaths per TerraWattHour is the measurement that I think all power sources should be judged.
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Not sure why they don’t build nuclear reactors underground then just concrete over the plant after when it needs decommissioning 🤷‍♂️
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If humanity is determined to double energy usage every 30-50 years this is probably the least destructive of all the alternatives since it doesn’t require (relativity speaking) the same level of massive real estate investment/destruction and mining as other “alternatives”
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And Net Zero will cost £800billion in the next 20 years, try harder Dale
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Since green energy hit the market our bills have been at record highs. Says everything.
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It's all covered, just like oil and gas platforms, I bet turbines aren't
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The last person working on the Hinkley B decommissioning project team hasn't been born yet. Let than sink in.
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Hire Optimus and you can speed up the work.
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Nuclear is so green its unbelievable lol
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Decommissioning costs are factored in 🤷‍♂️
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I think the cost of clean up is always factored in.
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Yes but we won't be here.
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What are your subsidies worth scammer
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And 99% of the coal-fired powerstations they have blown to bits is recyclable ♻️
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Yeah where will all these wind turbines go in the future
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Nearly as much as net zero will cost in a few years , what is it £800billion ?