Are u sure abt that
UranianOctober @UranianOctober
Nov 7
Sorry I know this is annoying and besides the point, but Lenin famously *did* wait for his party to become popular, that's what the whole 'patiently explain' stuff was about. The Bolsheviks didn't move to take power until they were confident they had a majority in the country

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And just to be clear he was right in his actions.
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You’re using the constituent assembly as indication of popular support? Come on He called for all power to the Soviets for a reason.
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I don’t think Lenin was sitting around counting noses waiting for a majority of people to say “I support the Bolsheviks and wish they were in power”
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constituent assembly doesn't matter. they were the majority in the soviets which was the worker's organized elected assembly, and the bols did wait till they were the majority there
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Yes which was the correct move. Not waiting for a majority but instead constructing new institutions that could seize power where they were the majority.
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The lion doesn't concern himself with the constituent assembly. Popular enough to take power and majority in a assembly are two different things. Bolsheviks were popular enough in the places that mattered for the revolution to succeed and could clean up the periphery later
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Sure I agree with that.
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Rynna ☭ @rinnitensei
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There was no split within the PSR (3 vastly different camps), and the elections didn't include the Soviets (in which the Bolsheviks had 80%+ majority). It is debatable whether Bolsheviks had an actual majority, but they were undeniably the leading working class party.
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I am aware of the controversies with the constituent assembly and even if that shit didn’t happen I think it was good for Lenin to dissolve it.
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The Left SRs were in a coalition with the Bolsheviks
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I am aware of what happened with the constituent assembly and how the counterrevolutionaries conspired against the revolutionaries. Considering what would later happen to the Left-SR’s i think Lenin was right and “but we represent more people” is a stupid argument
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Lenin argues in The Proletarian Revolution and the Renegade Kautsky that the Constituent Assembly was no longer representative of the actual views of the proletariat by the time of the revolution, and that the Bolsheviks enjoyed majority support in the Soviets.
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Proletariat =/= everybody
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- The constituent assembly hasn't played any role, primary organ were Soviets. - It was originally Trotsky's idea to wait until the vote in Soviet = easier legalisation of the insurrection -RevMilitary committee was prepared, but this was a strong point in the whole action
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Yes, he had the majority in the Soviets.
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during the July days he explicitly told his party to stand down because he gaged they didnt have enough popularity yet
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I will say that the elections to the congress of the soviets was probably more representative of peoples opinions, given the circumstances of the constituent assembly elections.
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It's well known that political floor maps represent the political will and distribution of the masses.
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186 seats are FAR from unpopular. That is a massive base of political support
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I agree that "majority" isn't necessarily true, but this doesn't take away from the overall point that Lenin didn't assume he could just take power without at least a certain amount of popular support
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Yea cus the SR’s split
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Their coalition with left SRs had a majority.
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why do the Armenians and the Ukrainians have their own parties???
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No way the socialist revolutionary parties would support a socialist revolution
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The Bolsheviks were extremely unpopular in the early phases of WW1 because of their revolutionary defeatist stance, they became a force in the Soviets only after the situation on the home front became unbearable. So yea they did wait until they became popular.
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seems pretty popular to me with about a quarter of the seats
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Yeah so socialist parties are looking pretty dominant here
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Yeah that seems popular to me. I think itms safe to say if the bolsheviks placed 5th in that election rather than 2nd, their subsequent takeover wouldn’t have turned out so well for them
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There's a gigantic difference between being popular and holding power, specially in an early 20th century oligarchy
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Yes.
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