I know this is hard for you, but if the written texts point outside themselves as not the sole infallible authority, then sola scriptura is false. Furthermore, the "Word" is a divine Person, not a book, and the apostle's oral teaching is also identified in 1 Pt 1:25 as the "Word," so on every count here, you failed.

So that's speaking truth plus you don't know what gates or Hades are. Neither of those says an infallible church will maintain and certainly don't say the church will never fail or err. You just slapped eisegesis tradition on top of some verses to make a claim.

Hey, trying to understand your point, here. Of course, the universal church cannot fall into universal error. But there are clearly wolves within the Church herself that scatter the flock. Isn’t the Protestant argument a desired return and recovery of the original ancient faith handed down by the apostles against medieval accretions and error? If so, wouldn’t these verses, then, be consistent with that view? It doesn’t mean that Protestantism is true, it just means that these verses are consistent with that proposition. Also, from an Orthodox perspective, how does that work with the West who were “orthodox” but fell into heterodoxy? More than half the Christian world fell. Not being antagonistic, just curious. God bless.

Is my church orthodox because we believe and preach the bible?

1 Corinthians 10:4 “And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.”

Way to expose your lack of understanding on Matthew 16:18. Matthew 16:16-18: "Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter (Petros), and upon this rock (petra) I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. Jesus is saying the rock that the church will be built on is NOT Peter, it is instead built on the truth that Jesus is the Christ. Petros = small stone Petra = bedrock

I like the verse where Jesus gives us a specific answer for which church to follow Oh wait

the he’s in John16:13 is referring back to the ‘ helper’ in John16:7 where it is masculine gender as a personification of the Holy Spirit, an impersonal force and neuter gender in Greek. It must use a masculine antecedent to agree grammatically but that doesn’t make it a person

Incoming "No institutional Church, we the people are the church"

The Bible says otherwise. These Roman claims are laughable.

Nothing there says what sort of authority passes to successors.

Acts 20:29-30, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, 1 Timothy 4:1

♥️☦️ I love Bible quotes.

Without the Church preserving the teachings, providing the full and complete manuscripts into the canonical Bible from where are you reading? From the first Bishop to the present Bishops the True Church of Christ is in the Apostolic succession. Reformation is not in succession

Peter isnt the rock there Jay

A whole bunch of sinners are not infallible. Everything must be tested.

You say universal church than later say The Church. Those are not the same thing.

So the Spirit of Truth guides me just as He guided the apostles, right? This fulfills Joel: And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh So I am part of the church because the Spirit is in me revealing all truth, even scripture, right?

Begging the Question Equivocation Non Sequitur False Dilemma Ad Hominem / Genetic Fallacy Straw Man Six fallacies packed into one post. cool rhetoric though….

Would you agree that works are fruits of faith tho?

Says you but you suck as a researcher. A group of men that is infaliable. Serious that's your argument. Who did Jesus speak against the most?