Of all the changes to Survival in Midnight, I think Boomstick is the one that confuses me the most. We're leaning into the fantasy of Rexxar and the Sentinels with... a shotgun?? It's such an odd replacement for Fury of the Eagle, which fits the vibes of the whole spec way more.

Oct 20, 2025 · 9:01 PM UTC

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What's crazy too is, I don't think Fury of the Eagle even looks that off with dual-wielding? It already uses one-handed stabbing animations, it maybe just needs a few of the off-hand animations added as well to make it work.
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*screams from the mountain top* SURVIVAL SHOULD HAVE BEEN A RANGED SPEC FOCUSED ON TRAPS, POISON DOTS, AND LESS COMMON BUT POWERFUL EXPLOSIVES AND BM SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE MELEE SPEC GRAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Sv is a mess. Whoever is in charge of the spec is not doing a good job. Also they are focusing even harder in the "bombs fantasy" when that was never a hunter fantasy. Where are traps, poisons, pets? An hyper buffed bomb is lame.
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Yeah I don’t get how they added dual wielding specifically to get closer to the Rexxar fantasy, who is also the spec’s literal poster boy on the talent tree screen, and then added a shotgun. Like pick a freaking lane.
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Blizzard what in the everloving fuck are you doing with Survival...
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oh my god
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I didn't know Rexxar pulled out the shotgun to kill Daelin...
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More a byproduct of trying to lean into two different fantasies at once, because it doesn't really fit Rexxar or Sentinels, but it certainly fits with the bomb throwing side of things.
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(surv main) I swear i’m the only one who loves this!? There is nothing exciting about the spec being like rexxar. Survival hunter should be a scrappy, outdoorsy, jungle commando vibe. I like the shotguns and bombs, just wish there was more trap/poison too. FotE was so uninspired.
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The Survival hunter fantasy has been all over the place for a while, I miss the Legion version, at least then it was truly melee-like
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Idk how to feel about this lmfao. A BOOMSTICK IS CRAZY.
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I think moving the identity to being focused on a plethora of bombs is the absolute wrong direction. Survival hunters are SURVIVALISTS, aka being one with nature, using the land as their home, etc. Bombs aren't nice to nature. I'm glad we can finally dual wield again, but still.
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consequences of wow's lack of tinker class/spec
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They want to make a Tinker class so badly. Do all the gun n grenade stuff for them and keep archer feel for hunters.
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Unpopular opinion. Blizz needs to make BM the melee spec. Only pet and melee abilities. Turn Survival into mid range trapper/sapper with both melee and ranged abilities. Problem solved.
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As we know, you ain't a real close combat fighter, unless you have a shotgun ready in your back pocket.
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Hunter has to have like 6 different class fantasies becuase they don’t know how to support more then like half a class with of ranged
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Master of the environment,’ my ass. Hunters should be throwing poison bombs, not fireballs…they’re one with the wilds, not wannabe bombers.
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I vould've even taken a flamethrower instead for Iron Horde fantasy at least
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"I'M GOIN' ALL OUT!" "HERE WE GO!"
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I really hope they change this. It’s so bad.
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It is funny to me because imagine you are fighting a hunter at melee and they just whip a shotgun mid fight Still, yeah, doesn't fit
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doesnt seem like they ever had much of a clue what they wanted survival to be all the way back to classic. it seems like they were leaning into more of an artificer thing with the wildfire grenades, which i guess explains the boomstick but yeah it clashes with other parts
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I've never been a fan of Wildfire Bomb from the start, felt out of place, and now they double down on it with this and Flamepatch....... At this point, I'm giving up on getting the Survival theme I want, so I'm gonna push instead for a 4th spec xDDDD
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World of Warcraft desperately needs another class that utilizes mechanic ranged weapons like guns, crossbows, that isn’t just visual like outlaw
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wouldn’t it make more sense for outlaw to get the shotgun
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Goofy ahhhhhg 💀
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Don’t show me this. My Tinker class desires grow stronger by the day when I see that shotgun. It’s my favorite MCH button in @FF_XIV_EN spamming that AOE shotgun. Let me play a machinist! Shooting arrows out of my Ray-gun in mechagnome armor isnt enough.
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Abilities like that feel really immersion breaking 90% of the time.
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We need glyphs back... Class customs should make a great return. Maybe it'll come precisely after they're more confident about having a solid gameplay first ? Especially for Night Elf Priests... and Moonlight Warriors... (Paladin)
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At this point if Blizzard won't give us Tinker for explosives fantasy, they just need to give Hunter a fourth spec. One for gadgets and bombs, one for melee pet focus.
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I really like the way they're taking Hunter, but I think it's time for a Warlock style animation choice. I feel for folks who like crossbows, but hunters should be able to use a bow or gun and have the animations match that. I'm playing a dwarf Marksman ATM and it's baffling.
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I think Survival should be completely disconnected from ranged weapons like bows and guns. They want to give it an attack that replaces FotE? Fine, but it should be based on melee or thrown weapons.
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I agree. Keep FotE - it’s a more fun thematic. Also I’m not really big on characters pulling out gear they don’t equip.
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That frankly just goves me Outlaw Rogue
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quite the choice, not saying it's a good choice of blizz... but quite the choice
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