The idea of “surplus labor” is just a rhetorical trick to avoid taking responsibility for one’s own productivity. It assumes that the worker creates all value and that anything the business earns above wages is “stolen.” But if that were true, then workers could simply pool their labor, form their own companies, and outperform every capitalist firm overnight. They don’t. Not because they’re oppressed, but because labor alone doesn’t create value. Value comes from: • risk • capital investment • knowledge • strategy • coordination • innovation • entrepreneurship If “surplus labor” were real, then the reverse should also be acknowledged: When a company fails, why don’t they ever call it insufficient labor? Why don’t workers say: “We didn’t generate enough value to sustain the business; that’s on us”? Because that would require admitting: • value isn’t automatic • wages are not guaranteed by effort alone • markets judge results, not intentions Most businesses fail. Not because the owners “exploited” the workers, but because the value created wasn’t high enough to sustain both wages and operations. Workers never claim “insufficient labor” because surplus labor was never an economic concept to begin with — it was a moral accusation, designed to: • avoid self-responsibility • frame earning as theft • and justify entitlement to someone else’s success If labor alone created all value, communists wouldn’t need capitalism to leech from. They’d outperform it. They don’t. And that fact alone is the final refutation.
"Historical Materialism and the Theory of Surplus Value which originated from Marx brought to light the general patterns underlying the development of human society" - President Xi

Nov 8, 2025 · 7:58 PM UTC

Replying to @RockChartrand
Socialism cannot compete with Capitalism because Capitalism plays into human greed. Socialism follows Capitalism, once Capitalism has caused its own downfall.
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every time I ask someone why they don't just pool their labor with other like-minded people to form their own business with no bosses, the answer is always some variation on "but that would be really hard" Oh, really?!
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Masterclass, bravo.
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👍👍👍❤️
Replying to @RockChartrand
Who comes up with so much bs? Looks like the ones that are talking are the ones never have risked anything. This is just a regular transaction, time, labor skills for an agreed value. I can sense a lot of envy and resentment
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Facts ! The surplus come most of the Time from the increase of productivity … and this come from knowledge, vision, innovation, risk taking, investment, available money to invest (savings) all of this is Capital Labor is just a factor who create some value, not all value
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Replying to @RockChartrand
Nah, it's 100% true. The reason why labor doesnt unite in that fashion is the same reason a car doesnt start on it's own. But once it does start, the key is no longer necessary.
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Labor makes everything. The capitalist class does not compensate the full value labor creates because if they did they wouldn't profit hand over fist. Cope more.