A lot of COVID deaths in India in young people who should be doing well & recovering. I am making a plea to doctors in India to cut down the use of STEROIDS. Please. Steroids are only useful after the patient is hypoxic. Harmful if given early, or given for too long

May 14, 2021 · 2:05 PM UTC

In the first week of the illness when the virus is dividing, the use of steroids can suppress the immune response and make the virus divide even more. Steroids are not antivirals. There was a trend to more deaths in RECOVERY trial in patients who were not hypoxic.
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In patients who have hypoxia, it signals that there is lung involvement. By now the virus is likely controlled by the body and the damage is from the immune system. Only at this stage are steroids useful: at small dose (Dex 6 mg) and short duration (5 days).
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Giving steroids at high dose, or steroids for prolonged duration can cause secondary infections from mucor, drug resistant candida, and drug resistant bacteria. Add to it muscle weakness and high blood sugars and any number of other problems.
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I recognize that part of the problem in India may be a more virulent virus or a totally overwhelmed health care system. That's not in our immediate control. But we can do things in our control: Use steroids only when necessary, at the right time, for the right duration.
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I made my career on Dexamethasone. And how a lower dose saves lives. This is truly a double edge sword that when used without care can cause tremendous harm. thelancet.com/journals/lanon…
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The Tamil Nadu state guidance is great. I would recommend this as a the standard for doctors in India to follow.
TN just released it’s COVID guidance. Rational and easy to follow!! No ivermectin No hydroxychloroquine, No remdesivir No plasma #science #TamilNadu @nram @GunasekaranMu @doctorsoumya @mkstalin
One comment I got is that docs are using high dose of steroids in India because low doses are not working. My response: If low dose steroids don't work it just means that the ongoing problem is not due to a hyperactive immune response. It is not something high doses will fix.
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There are any number of reasons why lung function deteriorates besides exaggerated immune response: progressive covid virus proliferation being a main one. Or clots. Or secondary infection. A higher steroid dose won't solve this. It will just mask symptoms and make things worse.
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More steroids will make us feel good and make it look like we are doing something better. But the problem with steroids is that they temporarily make everything seem good. From fever to nausea to shortness of breath. While making things worse. Stick to the data from RCTs.
More here. Discussion with @Chaiti @IndiaToday
How steroids impact #blackfungus? How are they related? Prof V Rajkumar (@VincentRK), Mayo Clininc, US, explains. #ITVideo #COVID19 | @Chaiti
Replying to @VincentRK
Even during pre covid care, the treatment protocol issued by Tamil nadu govt on 14 may 21 says administration of Dexamethazone please see
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This guideline is ok. The steroid dose is correct. Only differences are 1) they are recommending it if oxygen is 92-94 also (instead of <92), but they added qualification of needing respiratory rate >24. Which is ok given situation. 2) Duration 7 days instead of 5 days. Also ok.
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Replying to @VincentRK
sir what about inhaled steriod like buesnoide, given early. are they harmful too
Inhaled budesonide is ok if used as recommended: Indicated only people older than 60, age over 50 plus immunocompromised/diabetes/chronic heart or lung disease/obesity.
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Replying to @VincentRK @zchagla
From a meta analysis of all steroid RCTs 93% chance of increase mortality if given when pt does not require oxygen.
Replying to @VincentRK
We have to get patients off steriods. Hoping to get this Mab approved and knocking out inflammation that is clear cause of mortality. Lenzilumab reuters.com/business/healthc…
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Replying to @VincentRK
Use of steroids in the first phase of disease likely increases the replication of the virus much more!
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Replying to @VincentRK
Sir if possible can u please be one of the advisor to Indian govt, atleast till the completion of pandemic.
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Replying to @VincentRK
If only! Steroids are not good. Don't give them because everyone else is giving them. It does more harm than good by killing your body's immunity. I say this from experience of a family member suffering from cancer who takes it becoz he has no choice.
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Replying to @VincentRK
Following video is in Telugu but very similar points made piped.video/J48prfjnIF8
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Replying to @VincentRK
An experienced physician told me that medical science is not like engineering. In medical 2x2 could be anything beteween 0 to infinity (not only 4!). Treatments are very specific. A doctor treats on the basis of knowledge and patients conditions. Bad doctors are everywhere.
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Replying to @VincentRK @Chaiti
100% true!Home & self use,prophylactic,prolonged & high dose,day1,abuse of steroids(dexa/methypred/pred-not equivalent);irrational dual antibiotics,uncontrolled DM,over the counter self use:catastrophic!
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Replying to @VincentRK @svembu
After 1 year of Covid it's really frustrating to see that Medical fraternity is still divided on the below issues 🤒 1) Plasma 2) Steroids 3) Fariparavir & other anti-viral 4) Vaccination in pregnancy We really need a global unified consensus on these topics...to save lives.
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Replying to @VincentRK
Also,Indian doctors should stop giving a cocktail of strong antibiotics which have zero use in a viral infection like COVID but have serious side effects.
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Replying to @VincentRK
Sir what abt early introducing #Ivermectin- 12mg. Azithromycin/&related medications to every initial symptom patients.. People starting medication after severity.. If Govts Starts Bulk medication which not harm.. Do Mortality😥Rate may decrease.? @drharshvardhan @mla_sudhakar
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Replying to @VincentRK
Doctors in my town prescribed steroids to my diabetic father who is suffering from stage 4 CKD as well,having SPO2 above 95 from day one without telling us about necessary precautions to be taken.Its pathetic how irresponsibly they are treating everyone these days.
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Replying to @VincentRK
This message cannot be emphasised enough! Patients should not pressure doctors and doctors should definitely not feel pressured to prescribe steroids too early! This #mucormycosis fungal infection is far, far worse than Covid!
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Replying to @VincentRK
Bt what abt pts..who have abt 8-10 score on hrct,crp is in increasing trend...its all alredi 6th day of illness,bt maintaing spo2..shall we not start steroid in this pt,as have seen many cases with sudden detoriation in few hrs
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Replying to @VincentRK
Lots of people in late 20s and early 30s who are diabetic and not knowing it.
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Replying to @VincentRK
@drharshvardhan can you please spread awareness about medical info like this instead of posting garbled tweets? @VincentRK , Dr Vardhan is our Health Minister
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Replying to @VincentRK
Pertinent points. The bigger problem is over the counter (OTC) availability of steroids and self use by patients. Also, Quackery (Non-qualified individuals posing as doctors) contribute a lot to it..#COVID19India
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Replying to @VincentRK
Yes. As a guest of the Alappuzha Government Medical College Hospital covid ward, I saw steroids administered very judiciously. Not everyone was given steroids. Some had just paracetamol. Depending on severity closer monitoring.
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Replying to @VincentRK
That's true. Even paracetamol should not be given to suppress initial fever than can be tolerated in younger people. Suppressing fever early can delay the overall recovery time.
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