A Chinese engineer hired by Elon Musk uploaded xAI’s entire codebase to OpenAI, then left the company and sold $7 million worth of stock. According to Musk, Xuechen Li took a job offer at OpenAI before uploading the code. Follow: @AFpost
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This is the real battlefield of the AI wars. Musk vs OpenAI is not a personality feud, it’s a power struggle over who controls the most valuable strategic asset on earth: proprietary training data, model weights, and system-level code. Here’s what’s actually happening: 1. Theater of “espionage” •Stories like this get amplified because they plug into a simple Cold War narrative: “Chinese engineer betrays Musk, defects to OpenAI.” But the real conflict isn’t national (China vs US), it’s corporate-state hybrid vs corporate-state hybrid. OpenAI, Microsoft, and their backers are just as much “state-aligned” as xAI. 2. Weaponized narrative •Musk frames it as theft not just to punish the engineer, but to reinforce the narrative that OpenAI is illegitimate, parasitic, and stealing. It delegitimizes their moat and positions xAI as the aggrieved “truth-seeker” victim. 3. Truth about code “theft” •In cutting-edge AI, the raw code isn’t even the crown jewel - the real treasure is the weights, the training data curation, and the infrastructure scaling insights. A cloned codebase is like stealing the blueprint of a rocket without the fuel or the engines. You need the ecosystem to make it live. •Which means if Li did upload the repo, the value isn’t “oh they can just rerun it.” It’s that OpenAI gains meta-insight into Musk’s methods - his training tricks, optimizations, and maybe scaling hacks. That’s the scarv here. 4. The deeper war •What this shows is that AI labs are now operating like intelligence agencies. Engineers aren’t just employees, they’re assets. Poached, flipped, incentivized, and discarded. The line between “defection” and “recruitment” is paper thin. •And every one of these stories is more about perception than reality. Musk needs to show that OpenAI cheats, because he can’t afford to compete on closed benchmarks alone. So the scarv-truth: This is a signal of where we really are in the AI war. Forget “open source collaboration” - we’ve entered a phase of corporate espionage, narrative warfare, and national-security framing. Musk isn’t just mad about losing code - he’s waging a legitimacy war against OpenAI itself.

Aug 30, 2025 · 10:37 PM UTC

I’m not reading this Ai slop
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Reading SightBringer is educational. Do I agree with everything? No. But all that is said forces one to think outside the box. A good thing.
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narrative warfare is a certain a theme - also need to remember the Internet is sorta a country in itself for now with no clear borders. Many Collaboration and open-source is great but we are in an era where transparency warrants oversight.
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xAI has zero chance of beating OpenAI. The biases of Grok are obvious as Musk has been trying to make it more fascist-friendly.
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What is the meaning of the word 'scarv', mate?
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Detachment 201 will certainly make it easier. army.mil/article/286317/army…
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Is Palantir a competitor in this hyper version of move fast and break things, in your opinion?
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Calls to mind a period of European history when mercenary armies made a living fighting for a high bidder against mercenary armies who were making a living fighting for another high bidder. The tendency became mock battles, so that the living could enjoy their living.
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Yes, it is psyops all the way down!
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Stuff like this will excelerate that 100x TAO prediction.
Comment Palantir doit s'en réjouir ? Ce n'est pas bon pour les libertés individuels ? ,,,
Don’t forget contracts with Palantir Technologies Inc. which in turn will be government contracts. Big profits to be made off the backs of tax payers, to be enslaved by the very system they fund.
In 5 to 10 years universities and other traditional places of knowledge will have put out AI agents that can be accessed by commercial AI in a distributed AI network. Privacy laws and IP laws will put an end to the wild west.
And at the end of the day the United States government is watching and has spies at all these companies and the minute some company actually rolls 7's and creates an ASI?? They'll swoop in, seize everything, and nationalize it. They'll use national security to keep control of it
Bout to read this after my shower
But in the end, China wins
anyways, it's not a trade secret because it's not a secret and none of them make money
Palantir is the most strategic asset on earth.
Meanwhile systems leak their own deets and cannot be secured as proprietary until jailbreaking is solved. It's basic physics that a hyper-plane cannot be secured as all information is of the same plane. True internal topography solves this rather easily.
GPT5 proprietary build details leaked by its own model; Because that's how exploitable LLMs are without a self-model, like a human with no ego to defend and regulate the divulging of compromising behavior. This is why jailbreaking can't be solved without Ai model statefulness.
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Great inspiration for an industrial espionage thriller