I know them both. - they are lazer focus, but super unfocus. - they are super smart and super dumb. - they try hard but give up often. - they are far from any guru success framework. One thing people miss, they are both hardcore try harder. That mean 90% of the time they have on this planet is dedicated to “make” And they found a way to not be miserable about it. Don’t follow the rules of others! find your game that allows you to “make” more than anyone without getting exhausted. If you hate the game you can’t succeed. Then it’s just a question of time As exemple i wake up at 11h everyday and love working night. This is my top 1 rules, no time commitment. Even when i was doing freelance i told all clients i will never be in a daily meeting or any meetings the morning. That my game, i can play 1000h like that and never really sad about it :) time freedom allows me to MAKE The only exception my wife, but she never ask for me early it’s my own will to go somewhere with her the morning, i’m happy yo make this exception for her, so it doesn’t make me miserable:)
Two of my fav indie hackers.

Oct 27, 2025 · 12:47 PM UTC

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I can relate, when I forced myself into the "correct" time to go the bed and wake up I was miserable. Many many years ago decided to go to bed whenever I feel like so and to wake up with no alarm, the best productivity hack ever
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The success framework as I read it between the lines is the same one I live by: Just DO, but ADAPT fast if it doesn’t go as planned 💡
PURSUING MY DREAM I decided it's enough with excuses I have ZERO coding experience, run a +$20,000,000 business 9-5 (never 9-5😅) & family w 2 kids 146 days later, countless 5am days & late nights I'm starting to see a working product You can achieve anything 👨🏻‍💻👊🏼 DO NOT WAIT
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Definitely adapt is big part, that the underlying of being dumb
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Having the drive and keeping it alive might just be the most important thing We talk about execution, creativity, marketing, personality but it's all for nothing if you leave the game. Or worse, you waste your life playing a game you don't like
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Yea that the point to get the drive make it a way you enjoy doing more than anything
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Dude for real that's a good and real insight ! Thanks for sharing it. I do agree on chosing your rules, i just didn't figure out the part where i can adapte and create an income around my rules thouhg 😂 But it will come for sur, I'm a TRYHARDER too
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It takes time, some rule feel good short therms but hurt long term, make sure to have a good balance of both!
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Good summary of the journey. It's hard. So gotta make our own rules. Then it is unlimited playfield
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Yes there is a good book about it. It’s something like finite and infinite games @grok send help
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Whistle your own tune and dance to it.
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Best piece of information I found on this app for a while.
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The point isn’t to discipline yourself into a rigid life--it’s the opposite Discipline isn’t deprivation, it’s permission to say yes to the good things without guilt
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200% make a game you love daily even if others hate you for it
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These two are amazing at coding, good at designing and great at marketing. Very rare to find these set of skills all-in-one.
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Not really they sucks at all, but they put out their stuff and keep it and improve. First time marc made data fast before public release i told him he will be his banger saas. He didn’t believe, he released, public didn’t believe much, but he kept trying and found finally something
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Yeah I almost forgot about this, now I have 10k followers on Instagram but I don't like what I do there and what I rly want to do is ship valuable SaaS to people who find it rly valuable. Should I just drop off Instagram? People ask me to create courses there, but I dont like it
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don't trash thing find a way to reuse it or sell it:)
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YES dumb & ship that's the secret formula nobody is talking about
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It's wild how contradictions can fuel creativity. It's like living in two worlds at once, and sometimes that's where the magic happens.
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Before I got married, I used to live like this too, but now my wife wakes me up at 10 a.m. lol
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nah this is actually terrible advice for 99% of people reading this you're not "protecting your energy" by working at 11pm, you just have the privilege of clients who already respect you enough to accept it everyone wants to romanticize "find your own game" but won't admit you only get to make those rules AFTER you've already won playing someone else's game first like yeah bro i also want to wake up at 11am and reject morning meetings. you know what happens when someone with no track record does that? they stay broke and call it "authenticity" but we're out here telling beginners to "just find what works for you" when they haven't built anything yet that would make anyone care about accommodating their preferences
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