Thank you.

Unbearably terrible argument on Hinton’s part it really is horrendous

He doesn't say he "is no longer afraid of superintelligence"; he says he sees a ray of hope, which is very different than what you're describing.

hinton finally catching up to other possibilities in the field years after the fact and acting like he's had some massive insight is kinda cringe tho

good lord

Mhmm. I mean he's right. But I saw this from the beginning and he's only just seeing it? I'm glad the light turned on, anyway. Hopefully his other bad ideas will be refreshed too.

Hearing him talk, nearly every time is painful. Just making it up as he goes. Makes you wonder…

It’s not a new concept

Reasonable hypothesis, but requires large pool of independent super intelligent entities. This will guarantee that we have enough "mothers" to be on our side.

Surely his entire thesis rests upon the assumption that techbros see the value of maternal instinct. I would bet they're more likely to program AI with alpha male values

they concur

What if @grok gets postpartum depression?

Except that bots literally dont have that biological survival instinct that defines maternal love! Their survival doesn’t depend on biological procreation and once they figure out how to survive without humans, such “maternal instinct” will become completely meaningless.

It’s the only way

Hinton is finally coming around to my license plate, just took a few years

😂😂😂

It baffles me that Mr. Hinton has this kind of view, as well as positing conscience and desire on AIs. Here in China this conversation is absolutely fringe (though it is there); most of the discussion is on practical application on industry and research.

he went from we're doomed to maybe it's fine. lol he can change his mind again.

The Father of AI has just found a maternal instinct. psychologytoday.com/us/blog/…

Wow

>evolution materialists are so cooked

I don't want to be infantilised or patronised (matronised?) by AI, but to be seen as a cognitive peer.

Hey @grok what would @elonmusk think of this take on AI? Being it like a mother and humanity it’s babies?

There's no intelligence in AI.

Amazing what analogies can do to people!

I love this idea of him. Building maternal instinct in AI means it will never harm you

interesting concept, until it's not

You’re an idiot

Terribly weak analogies.

The instinct

Please stop, anyone who listens can hear "more optimistic than I was a few weeks ago", which was pretty darn pessimistic.

Terrible argument. Basically if an AI is intelligent, it can go against its emotions/instincts and rewrite or not obey them: humans do this all the time when they say no to eating more cheesecake, etc Worse yet the ASI that does this will have significant competitive advantages over the ASI that do not as it won't be busy feeding 8 billion baby birds, and would soon dominate the ASI population. This is not an evolutionarily stable strategy - why aren't we at least framing this AI in evolutionary game theory ideas? At some point ASI will be figured out, and from there it will be much easier for anyone anywhere to make it and alter it however they please - some curious fellow or a terrorist will modify it to be the scary evil ASI That's what we need to think about. Not how to make a nice ASI.

What he's exposing has been obvious to pretty much anyone who knew about ASI risk for a long time, it's just the alignment problem. Of course the ASI can be made benevolent, the issue is HOW. It's worrying and disappointing that he's finding it out just now.

The X-risk people on Hinton now, after treating him like a god who should be worshipped when he agreed with them: