I personally don't frown at protocols that list it, I think it can make sense with sensible parameters, I just think with Kai we should be even more conservative since it's a different system, and it turned out to be wise in this case. The bigger issue is that there isn't really a lot of things to list since the markets are so thin on all but a few of these coins ATM. So it's like we have to go through "beginnings of defi" problems and all the lessons here again even though we kinda know them.