yeah, that is entirely correct and I think it is fine for people to vigorously disagree about this stuff. I would not expect the union to say anything different, nor should they. I just disagree.

welcome back matt yglesias

any time i’ve seen your posts here you’re just being a dogshit human being. repulsive person

You're a great example of why the average Bay Area resident would not survive in Philadelphia

If you’re scabbing you are, in fact, participating in a strike, on management’s side.

v embarrassing for you

Scabbing isn’t about obligation, but the choice of whether or not to stand with other workers as they attempt to improve their lives through collective action and bargaining You don’t have an obligation to engage in charity either, but it’s still understood as a good thing

i mean i think the point of the term "scab" is to consciously create and enforce a norm that the public does have an obligation to participate in strikes

Philadelphians are overwhelmingly supporting the workers. you don't even live here. don't comment on what you don't know, tech bro

No one said it was obligatory, they just said it was shitty to do this (which it is)

That’s right king. You don’t owe anyone ANYTHING. Everyone else can get FUCKED, that’s what i always say. Self care 💅💅

stick to forecasting elections

But maybe yes they do.

Damn. you suck bro

scabbing makes it harder for all people to be compensated fairly for their labor 🫠🫠🫠 it sets a terribly precedent. solidarity is important. don’t undermine the collective

Diss you? /s

Are you under the impression the world needs a second Matt Yglesias because it does not

*deep breath* LOOOOOOOOSER

If you want to help your neighbors out during a crisis, know there is a word (well, two) for what you are. A good neighbor.

Yes! We do! Our fates as the working class are intertwined! Workers of the world, unite!

TBH it's also self defeating. Dollars to donuts if ppl did the alternative and just dumped the garbage on the street, you'd have to be delusional to think that the political result would be more union support.

Yeah we should just let them pick off one industry at a time and hope it won't come for ours

The big disconnect with public unions is that the taxpayers are footing the bill. People love to make the government out to be this independent entity. It's our taxes that have to go up to support these things. And we should have a discussion over whether it's worth it or whether to cut other wasteful spending to fund it. But it's wild when public unions strike, hurt taxpayers, essentially demanding taxpayers pay them more, and are shocked that taxpayers aren't thrilled to support them?

Where did they say it was an obligation?

Please don't tell me you're a Golden Bear, saying this...

“the public has no obligation to stop employers from discriminating against you because of your race”. you probably

A scab is a non-union WORKER who crosses the picket line It’s someone in the same industry. It’s not the public who just want the job done and will do it for their neighbors Not having your trash picked up is a health hazard. Sorry not sorry

Not crossing picket lines is not a legal obligation but a moral one, you can decide what type of person you are and act accordingly.

By this measure, it’s equally true that the public has no “obligation” to refrain from calling people like this scabs and shaming them

If you don't want to be called a scab don't do scab behavior. Simple.

Yeah strikes when it’s a monopoly on an important public service is kinda bullshit.

I mean they don’t have obligation but it still might be scabbing lol. Isn’t the whole point that they aren’t doing anything illegal but it’s opportunistically taking advantage of the under-compensation of workers?